Who you calling a Mormon????

Once again, as the peculiarities of the FLDS sect hit the media megaphones, the LDS Church is demanding appealing to the news media to not call the other “Mormons,” Mormons.

SALT LAKE CITY 17 April 2008 Elder Quentin L. Cook, an apostle for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, appealed to the news media today to make a clear distinction in their reports between the Church and the polygamist sect in Texas that has made headlines throughout the world.

He praised news media that are making this distinction but expressed concerns about others who are perpetuating mistruths about the Church, whose members are commonly referred to as Mormons.

Elder Cook said it is very confusing to the public when some media use “Mormon” to describe the Texas-based polygamous group that is currently under investigation for possible incidents of child abuse. He reiterated that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, with over 13 million members worldwide, is not connected in any way to sects that practice polygamy.

Drawing contrasts between the Church and polygamists, Elder Cook said that Church members do not live in isolated compounds, arrange marriages, dress in old-fashioned clothing or wear unusual hairstyles.

Rather, they are participating members of the communities in which they live throughout the world, get married at the average age of 23 and are well educated. In fact, 60 percent of Church members in the United States have some college education, which is 10 percent above the national average.

Wow. That’s the ONLY contrasts they can come up with? No isolated compounds, arranged marriages, old-fashioned clothing, and UNUSUAL hairstyles? What about the BELIEF system people?

Perhaps we should point out just a FEW of the shared beliefs.

*Belief that Joseph Smith Jr. restored the gospel of Jesus Christ to the earth
*Belief that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God
*Belief that polygamy is necessary for living in God’s highest Kingdom, the Celestial Kingdom. In fact, polygamy was called the NEW and EVERLASTING covenant, by none other than Joseph Smith….speaking for God, of course
*Belief that the Book of Mormon is the word of God

Truth be told, the pligs are living the gospel of Joseph Smith the way JS taught it. And the modern-day mainstream Mormon Church? They still BELIEVE in polygamy, and practice spiritual polygamy, but do not currently practice physical polygamy, as it is against the law. It was NOT, however, removed from the doctrine, and in fact, was discontinued with a “manifesto” and not a prophecy.

But back to the Church statement: Unusual hairstyles??? They are, of course, referring to what I call the “polygamist poof.”


That, old-fashioned clothing, and living in a compound. Other than that, the Mormons are REALLY all in the same family.

And ARRANGED MARRIAGES? We are talking about YOUNG GIRLS BEING RAPED HERE, you old geezers! Sheesh. Makes you want to scream at the top of your lungs, don’t it? Talk about dancing around the ELEPHANT in the living room.

Elephant, thy name is polygamy.

(Please note: If you go in and read the comments, and you read the one from “plaintruth” and your blood starts to boil and seeps up into your eyes, and your head threatens to explode… Just note. The ISP is a Utah ISP, and the email address is a fake one, and it’s more than likely a troll. So before you set your blood to boil, consider the fact it AIN’T really worth it. Although it makes for good blog reading….)


About Natalie R. Collins

Natalie has more than 30 years writing, editing, proofreading and design experience. She has written 20 books (and counting), has worked for the Sundance Film Festival, and as an investigative journalist, editor, and proofreader. She embraces her gypsy-heart and is following her new free-thinking journey through life. Follow her as she starts over and learns a bunch of life's lessons--some the hard way.
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22 Responses to Who you calling a Mormon????

  1. PLAIN TRUTH says:

    That Marleigh Meisner and the manhating female judge both look like total w*h*o*r*e*s. I’d bet meisner has at least four tattoos. Just based on her looks I’d also guess that she probably has whored around with at least 84 different men.

    Only a slut would want those kids taken from their wonderful families. I am praying that both those hogs come down with brain cancer–several large tumors-each. I would enjoy a youtube video showing their diseased body flopping around on a hospital bed.

    The patriots who are standing up for these kids and the constitution need to get together and form an organization to resist this and other atrocities by the government and their henchmen.

    Further, all baptist churchs should be picketed on sunday to protest the invovlement of the el dorado baptist church in assisting the pigs, providing buses and acting as collaborators. this is a huge problem.

    At least the FLDS girls haven’t taken the LBT (low back tattoo) like your whorish slut women in Texas.

    And that TV hog with the bug eyes looks like a slut too.

    Now for some real info:

    It was legal to marry at 14 year in both texas and utah until recently. In utah, at least, the law was changed with the specific intent of persecuting the FLDS, who are great people, at least the few I have met.

    I’ve often said that i would rather have my daughter(s) become the 10th wife of a good man than the first wife of a feminized white meat pussy.

    The only difference between a 14 yo and a fifteen year old is one day. Big deal. It is legal to marry a 15 year old in utah right now.

    The real lesson here for you Texas swaggerbitches is that DCFS will soon be coming for your children. “Emotional Abuse” is a term so ambiguous that it can mean whatever the slut manhater social work whore wants in to mean. Do you teach your kids that god loves them. Surely, that is emotional abuse–at least to an athiest bitch.

    Do you teach your kids not to intermarry with white people. Now, that is politically incorrect emotional abuse for sure.

    I still hope those two hogs get brain cancer–me and probably phred phelps are praying for it right now.

    Pussy, feminzied white men have lost this country and it started when they let their women become disobedient. Suffer you slime.


  2. Alicia says:

    Uh … uh …. whaaa? Is it just me or did anybody else’s brain explode after that comment?


  3. sam says:

    i think someone’s brain exploded BEFORE that comment.


  4. Tracy says:

    Be careful what you wish for Plain Truth, you might just get it.

    A question, for anyone, even our friend Plain Truth. If Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were to come back today, would they associate more with the FLDS then the LDS?

    Just curious.


  5. C. L. Hanson says:

    Wow, I hadn’t seen this statement from the LDS church, but it’s exactly as I predicted: “I don’t think there’s any chance the official organization in SLC will defend the polygamists. It looks like the only reason the Utah authorities tended to let them be was because every time the FLDS make the news, it’s bad publicity for the mainstream LDS. If the LDS church comments at all, it will be to distance themselves from the FLDS. OTOH, lots of individual Mormons will sympathize with the plight of the FLDS.”

    ( http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=290#comment-12495 )


  6. Natalie says:

    Good God. Do I just delete it, or let the blogworld implode AROUND it. GOOD GOD.


  7. azteclady says:

    Let it stand, Natalie.

    It does say more about the writer than about anything else, doesn’t it?


  8. Christian Prophet says:

    Why would you care what someone else believes? Just be happy with your own salvation.

    I saw the video about the horrible drug-infested Texas Foster Care system at:

    I also read most of a thousand thought-provoking comments by citizens outraged by Texas Bureaucrats’ blatant violation of the constitution at:

    This situation has huge historical significance.


  9. Moon says:

    feel the love


  10. Renee says:

    Gads, Natalie, the nuts are out in full force. You keep on keeping it real.



  11. Natalie says:

    Yup, the right wing nutjobs came out of the closet.


  12. Elaine says:

    I’d almost be tempted to let the “Why would you care what someone else believes?” comment go without, well, comment. But. I. Just. Can’t.

    I think you have to care about what someone else believes when that belief leads to women being married to men and then being “reassigned” for no good reason other than that the leaders don’t like what a man has done or said or thought.

    I think you have to care about what someone else believes when it leads to young girls, with or without their agreement (depending on who you believe), being married to much older men. Because, you know, they are still children and don’t need to be married even if they think they want to.

    I think you have to care about what someone else believes when it leads to young men being kicked out of their families (well, and the cult, too, but that’s probably to their benefit in the long run even if it is cruel) for doing something like playign a video game or talking to a girl.

    So, you know…even if some posters are trolls, some things still have to be said. Especially when they drag out the Constitution…again…yet seem to have no concern at all for the constituional, civil, or human rights of these women and children to self-determination. Because you can’t make real choices if you’ve been brainwashed since birth.


  13. Magic says:

    I agree, you have to worry about what someone else believes, especially if they think their God would approve of this sort of vitriol.


  14. Kitty says:

    Plain Truth, I see some shock therapy in your future.


  15. T.B. says:

    . . . and Texas just got their lethal injection ban lifted! Timing or happy coincidence?!


  16. Lauren says:

    In a previous post you(Natalie) said,” The angry Mormons who disagree with me RARELY, if ever, address the actual comments or questions or theological concerns I have. ” Would you care to enlighten me as to what your questions and theological concerns are? I am asking you with sincerity because I would truly like to know. It interests me that you do what you do.

    (Yes, I realize that my comment has little to do with this particular blog posting. I just would like to be noticed and I figured that putting my question here would do that…. and I am not very good at being patient. I am that kid who wiggles and squirms and waves my hand at the teacher saying, “Oo! Pick me, pick me!”)


  17. Georgia says:

    Tracy, I couldn’t agree with you more… Joseph Smith would praise the FLDS.

    Many LDS Church leaders and historians suggest that sexual relations and the marriage of Joseph Smith and his youngest wife, Helen Mar Kimball, fourteen at the time, was “approaching eligibility.”

    There is no documentation to support the idea that marriage at fourteen was “approaching eligibility.” Actually, marriages even two years later, at the age of sixteen, occurred occasionally but infrequently in Helen Mar’s culture. Thus, girls marrying at fourteen, even fifteen, were very much out of the ordinary. Sixteen was comparatively rare, but not unheard of. American women began to marry in their late teens; around different parts of the United States the average age of marriage varied from nineteen to twenty-three.


  18. Tracy says:

    Lauren, read Natalie’s blog, that will tell you what her concerns are.

    Georgia, thanks for your insights. Just stepping back and looking a LDS historically, FLDS seems more in line with Mormonism during the time of JS then the modern church.



  19. Drew says:

    Thanks for your comments. I am impressed with your insight.


  20. azteclady says:

    I love*** the irony of flipping out the “Constitutional rights!!!” banner in outrage in order to defend the right of a cult–any cult–to indoctrinate its children from birth.

    (***that was sarcasm, for the new readers)


  21. Kitty says:

    Lauren, if you are indeed that kid who wiggles and squirms and waves your hand at the teacher saying, “Oo! Pick me, pick me”, then here is your assignment from the teacher. Do a little research on church history, and trust me it will only take a little. But just to get you started, try to make some sense out of this comment by Joseph Smith:
    “Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet…When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go.” (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)

    And Lauren, keep in mind that these volumes were published by the church and the so called true church quotes freely from them, if it agrees with what they think at the time. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!


  22. Double Standard says:

    To PlainTruth:
    If a woman sleeps with 84 men she is a slut and a whore. If a man sleeps with 84 women he is a prophet. This doesn’t make sense at all. THINK ABOUT IT!!!


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