I think I’ve used this heading before, but, “You scare me” is something I’ve heard before. Our old friend Wayne finds all the Trappees very frightening. Consider his comment, below.
I don’t spend much time here anymore because I know how you all feel about the Church. I also know it is a waste of time trying to be (what’s the word), cordial? Because when everyone finds you’re a member of the Church it automatically sends up the red flag and everyone goes into the attack mode. You write all the horror stories about how the members of Church have contaminated your doorbells and walkways. I read all of the ideas that many of you have about how to keep the horrible, creepy, weird, and over zealous Bishops, Missionaries, Relief Society and home teachers away from you. Some of your ideas are kind of interesting and, should I say “Very Christ like”? Personally I don’t think any of you know who He is or anything about Him, let alone any of his teachings. The suggestions of running around naked, using fowl language, posting signs and even letting your dogs go on the missionaries are interesting comments and suggest an attitude that is very Un-Christ-like. I wonder how long it will be before one or some of you get to the point of taking it out on the members of the Church with a weapon or burning their house down, or maybe even rape or whatever. As for you Natalie: If some thing should happen like that, I think God will hold you partially responsible for egging it on. As far as I am concerned you are all sick in the head, and frankly, you scare me.
Wayne, I disagree. I’ve always been cordial to you. Just because I don’t AGREE with you does not mean I am being rude. I was cordial to “my” bishop, too. Honest, but cordial.
Now you, on the other hand, are being downright NASTY. We are all “sick in the head?” Hey, I’m not the one that believes that the Garden of Eden is in Missouri (have you BEEN THERE????) or that “Lamanites” are descendants of Jews, despite the abundant DNA evidence that disproves this.
I also have never espoused polygamy, OR defended it. Matter of fact, I would consider myself an ardent FOE of polygamy, and the horrible damage done to women and children in the name of religion. I also do not defend patriarchy, not because I believe men are bad, but because I find it harmful to MEN, women and children.
I do not believe that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon with his HEAD stuck in a hat, but you do. At least, if you are a FAITHFUL MORMON you do. I also don’t believe that God was Adam, and Adam was God, but Brigham Young sure did.
I could go on and on here. But I won’t.
Who is sick in the head? I wish you well, quite frankly. If you are happy and content in your belief system, then more power to you. But I don’t believe, they won’t leave me alone, and I am forced to address it EVERY SINGLE DAY.
What you have listened to here is discontent among the masses of those who WISH TO BE LEFT ALONE.
And those, like azteclady, WHO cannot BELIEVE the lengths to which Mormons will go to retain members. Only CULTS behave in this manner. I’m sorry, but it’s true.
If anyone is SICK IN THE HEAD, it is the person who believes it is all right to walk up to someone who has said, “I do not believe,” and confront them! As I told the bishop, “I do not come to your house and confront your beliefs. I have NEVER knocked on your door and asked for your children to come to MY church. I would not do this.”
So why am I to regard Mormons as different? Why do you get to live by different rules? Why do YOU get to come on to MY blog, and call all former and ex-Mormons SICK IN THE HEAD? Just because we are TIRED of being harassed, and of having our wishes dismissed, because YOU don’t believe we KNOW what is right for us. I am 44-freaking-years-old. I can DECIDE for myself what is right. JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATED THE BOOK OF MORMON WITH HIS HEAD STUCK IN A HAT. Are you REALLY going to try to convince me that he was NOT A CON MAN? HEAD! STUCK! IN! HAT!!!!
Would you please consider what you are saying here? Sick in the head? Who is REALLY sick? I live by reason and knowledge, and common sense. I make mistakes. I acknowledge said mistakes. Sometimes, I don’t know the complete situation, and I end up having to apologize. Sometimes, I do stupid things, and live to regret them. But I never stand up and say, “I KNOW THIS THING IS TRUE, BECAUSE MY BOSOM IS BURNING.”
That, people, is heartburn. There is medication for that.
The day I start the Church of Natalie you can accuse me of leading people astray. But I have never espoused to have THE ONLY TRUE THING. For that reason alone, Wayne, your attack is unwarranted and uncalled for. I am sure that you are a perfectly nice man, and a believing Mormon. But you are allowing your Mormon blinders to affect your ability to see reason and logic. I don’t WANT you to abandon your faith.
I DO want you to understand that others do and will, and that they HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS YOU.
It’s that simple. This doesn’t scare me at all.
As for you Natalie: If some thing should happen like that, I think God will hold you partially responsible for egging it on. As far as I am concerned you are all sick in the head, and frankly, you scare me.
I have NEVER advocated violence against ANYONE. I have also NEVER COME to your doorstep, or the doorstep of ANY Mormon and tried to force MY beliefs on you or them. EVER. Can you say the same? Who is REALLY in the wrong here? Think long and hard.
I do not understand how you cannot see that it is the MORMONS who are in the wrong here! Yes, these people are writing about going to some pretty extensive lengths to have their PERSONAL RIGHTS RESPECTED, because they NEVER ARE!!
And this was just plain funny.
The suggestions of running around naked, using fowl language, posting signs and even letting your dogs go on the missionaries are interesting comments and suggest an attitude that is very Un-Christ-like.
Does using “fowl” language involve squawks and chirps? A FOWL is a bird, baby. And why would posting signs be “un-Christ-like?” Hmmm? My dog would probably just lick the missionaries, like he does everything else. Including his, uh, well, you know. Frankly, how any of this leads to violence is BEYOND me. Have you ever even LAUGHED in your life, Wayne? NOT ONE COMMENT advocated any kind of violence. Yet, you wrote:
I wonder how long it will be before one or some of you get to the point of taking it out on the members of the Church with a weapon or burning their house down, or maybe even rape or whatever.
Yes, of course, we are getting together tonight and planning to rape and pillage in the Mormon community, because it is SO VERY important to us to get our point across with violence.
Wayne, you have missed a lot during your time visiting here, and one of the most important things you have missed is that WE REALLY JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE to believe the way we believe.
JUST LIKE YOU. How sad for you that you cannot comprehend that. And you are now locking your daughters in their bedrooms in fear that I am headed over to your house to rape them.
Never raped anyone in my life. Didn’t even come close. Don’t have the EQUIPMENT for one thing, and I also have daughters of my own, and I protect them just like you.
Stop making ridiculous assumptions. No one is forming a mob. I do not work that way, nor do the Trappees. WE do, however, have to release frustration and sometimes that includes humor and slightly irreverent suggestions.
Get over yourself. You used to scare people. Today, we laugh. You believe in silly things. We do respect your right to believe in said silly things. We do NOT respect your right to try to force them on us.
End of story.