Bill Maher tells it like it is… Zion Curtain Roundup

It’s been a busy week Behind the Zion Curtain, but I wanted to start out with this video of Bill Maher, as he puts Mormonism under the microscope and it comes up lacking. (Note to Mormons: Bill pretty much thinks all religions are silly, so you aren’t being picked on. He’s spreads his ridicule around equally.)

Protestors at BYU Become LEPERS in the Provo Community

According to a Mother Jones article, not only were high schools in the Provo School District told NOT to rent their facilities out to the protesters who wanted an alternative commencement ceremony–one minus Vice President Dick Cheney–but now, the students who attended are being blacklisted by the community.

But that was just the beginning of the story. A local businesswoman has tipped off the students that their names are now also on a “do not hire” list circulated by local businesses. “Many businesses are noting the names involved,” she says.

Really, the Mormons are ALL about freedom of choice. You choose their right, or they punish you.

And finally, Robert Kirby Opines on Meeting an Excommunicated Mormon on the Street… A man, who oddly enough, seemed to be perfectly happy in his Outer Darkness shrouded world. (And yes, I did notice the typo on the Trib page, but it’s still a good column.


About Natalie R. Collins

Natalie has more than 30 years writing, editing, proofreading and design experience. She has written 20 books (and counting), has worked for the Sundance Film Festival, and as an investigative journalist, editor, and proofreader. She embraces her gypsy-heart and is following her new free-thinking journey through life. Follow her as she starts over and learns a bunch of life's lessons--some the hard way.
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15 Responses to Bill Maher tells it like it is… Zion Curtain Roundup

  1. Kane says:

    We need more of this.


  2. Cele says:

    I don’t get to watch Bill Maher and I’ve never watched Craig Ferguson. I should amend my ways that was funny, truthful, and smack on.


  3. Renee says:

    I love Robert Kirby. He’s given me more and better perspective on being Mormon (the kind who relates well to non-Mormons like me) since I moved to Utah a year ago than I could have hoped for. He actually lives pretty close to me – I keep hoping I’ll run into him at the grocery store, so far no luck.

    I wish they’d circulate the names of those kids who protested where I work. I’d hire one of them on the spot (unfortunately I don’t have any openings right now, but I know people who do).

    Natalie, any opinion on the PBS mini-series?


  4. Alicia says:

    Natalie should write a whole post on the PBS thing (wink wink) … I saw it last night (missed House for it too) and …. -.-


  5. Wayne says:

    What Mormons really believe!! Could we call this: ‘Un-Natalieized’? Or Mormonism without the ‘Natilieism’ twist?


  6. Wayne, it is patently obvious that you have NO idea what Mormons really DO believe. I don’t twist anything. Sorry you don’t like cold hard facts. The LDS Church spins faster than a top. If YOU want to believe it, so be it, but DO NOT accusing me of lying or twisting. And spell my name right. It’s NATALIE.


  7. Wayne says:

    ONE TIME I spell your name wrong and you come unglued. All my life I have been called ‘Dwayne’, ‘Wane’ among many other forms. My own father, until the day he died, spelled it ‘Wain’. I don’t ever once remember being offended by it. Your sensitivity is showing through. You noticed I did spell it correctly the first time. I am not a professional typist like some people.


  8. I didn’t come unglued, Wayne. I realize you are desperate to discredit me, and thus, validate your position. Please don’t insult me and expect pats on the back, however.

    You wrote:
    Could we call this: ‘Un-Natalieized’? Or Mormonism without the ‘Natilieism’ twist?

    Actually, we could call it highly sanitized, carefully handpicked information. The “milk” before the “meat,” so to speak.


  9. Wayne says:

    Whoa!!! DISCREDIT??? NATALIE: Do you know what that word means? Everything you write about the Church in some form or another is designed to DISCREDIT it. And when you do say something nice, you have to add some negative comment. If you don’t put a twist on your comments, you refer your followers to a website that does. Take for example the latest with Bill Mayer. Then immediately after that you give reference to Mother Jones, then on to another by Robert Kirby. All POSITIVE, RIGHT? No chance you would stoop to discredit anyone! Not unless they are member of the Mormon Church.
    As for me knowing what the Church believes, I have been a member for the past 45 years. My mother is an active, anti-Mormon. She has presented me with every argument you have ever heard of, with the same techniques you use. My younger brother is a very devout Atheist, and I have also gotten it from that angle. I have a large suitcase full anti-type material that I have researched. I have gone to many anti-Mormon rallies in the Salt Lake area, including one by Dick Bear, a one time popular anti. Does that make me an expert? No. But it made me smart enough to see through what you are trying to do. As for me trying to discrediting you? I think that is something you will do for yourself.


  10. Natalie says:


    You are missing a VERY simple point here. I do not believe the Mormon Church to be true, and I am open and honest about it. YOU do believe the Mormon Church to be true, and you are open and honest about it.

    As long as YOU have a right to proselytize and defend, and claim you belong to the only true church, I have a right to say I do not believe it is true.

    Bottom line.


  11. Tracy says:

    “And when you do say something nice, you have to add some negative comment”

    Sweetie, it is Natalies blog…if you want something sugary sweet about LDS, write your own blog.


  12. azteclady says:

    Devout Atheist?



  13. joe nahhas says:

    Bill The Sissy Maher
    Why you do not take on real crooks crooks with PHD and Nobel prizes at Harvard and MIT and Cal-tech who teach at PHD level time travel and his grandpa was an Ape? How many Apes beside Bill Maher Travelled through time?
    2009 is the end of Einstein’s space-jail of time and Fraud symbol E=mc²
    Time is not a structure like space to allow space-to time-back to space jumping claimed by Physicists regardless of what physicists have to say about it because Physics is a business and not necessarily science or scientific and like every business it comes with fraud and fraud is Einstein’s space-time (x, y, z, it) continuum that led to fraud symbol E=mc² and yes I am saying that 109 years of Nobel prize winners physics and physicists are all wrong and space-time physics is based on scientific fraud. When “results” expected and “No” discovery, Physicists rigged Physics for grant money since the start of the industrial revolution. Physics today is at least 51 % fraud!
    r ——————>>Exp (ì w t) ———->> S=r Exp (ì wt) Nahhas’ Equation
    Orbit——–>> Orbit light sensing——>> Visual Orbit; Exp = Exponential
    Particle —->> light sensing of moving objects———— >> Wave
    Newton———>>light sensing———->> Quantum
    Quantum = Newton x Visual Effects
    Quantum – Newton = Relativistic = Optical Illusions
    E (Energy by definition) = mv²/2 = mc²/2; if v = c
    m = mass; v= speed; c= light speed; w= angular velocity; t= time
    S = r Exp (ì w t) = r [cos (wt) + ì sin (wt)] Visual effects
    P = visual velocity = change of visual location
    P = d S/d t = v Exp (ì w t) + ì w r Exp (ì w t)
    = (v + ì w r) Exp (ì w t) = v (1 + ì) Exp (ì w t) = visual speed; v = wr
    E (visual energy= what you see in lab) = m p²/2; replace v by p in E = mv²/2
    = m p²/2 = m v²/2 (1 + ì) ² Exp (2ì wt)
    = mv²/2 (2ì) [cosine (2wt) + ì sine (2wt)]
    =ì mv² [1 – 2 sine² (wt) + 2 ì sine (wt) cosine (wt)];v = speed; c = light speed
    wt = π/2
    E (visual) = ìmv² (1 – 2 + 0)
    E (visual) = -ì mc² ≡ mc² (absolute value;-ì = negative complex unit) If v = c
    w t = π/4
    E (visual) = imv² [1-1 +ỉ] =-mc²; v = c
    wt =-π/4+ỉln2/2; 2ỉ wt=-ỉπ/2 – ln2
    Exp (2i wt) = Exp [-ỉπ/2] Exp [ln(1/2)]=[-ỉ (1/2)]
    E (visual) = imv² (-ỉ/2) =1/2mc² v = c
    Conclusion: E = mc² is the visual Illusion of E = mc²/2 All rights reserved.
    PS: In case of E=mc² claims to be rest energy claims then
    E=1/2m (m v + m’ r) ² = (1/2m) (m’ r) ²; v = 0
    E = (1/2m) (mc) ²; m’ r =mc


  14. Rick says:

    What the HELL is that about?


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